Missing Tension Spring from 2000 Honda Elite Ch80

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Bought the scooter on craigslist would not start...only has 500 miles...everything about the bike looks barely used...figured it was just a carb issue. Took apart carb...it was filthy...found missing o-ring to enrichment thermal valve..obviously someone who didn't know what they were doing had worked on the scooter.

So after reading the post here about the guy who installed the tension spring wrong I took off the 14mm bolt and inspected. Nothing...no spring.

I have ordered 50 bucks worth of parts for the carb and threw in a tension spring. Looking for advice on what symptoms no tension spring would give?

Thanks

[R. LaCasse]

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Bought the scooter on craigslist would not start...only has 500 miles...everything about the bike looks barely used...figured it was just a carb issue. Took apart carb...it was filthy...found missing o-ring to enrichment thermal valve..obviously someone who didn't know what they were doing had worked on the scooter.
So after reading the post here about the guy who installed the tension spring wrong I took off the 14mm bolt and inspected. Nothing...no spring.
I have ordered 50 bucks worth of parts for the carb and threw in a tension spring. Looking for advice on what symptoms no tension spring would give?
Thanks

Proly will work/start with the Spring???

Good Luck

Bob

[b***@gmail.com]

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Bought the scooter on craigslist would not start...only has 500 miles...everything about the bike looks barely used...figured it was just a carb issue. Took apart carb...it was filthy...found missing o-ring to enrichment thermal valve..obviously someone who didn't know what they were doing had worked on the scooter.
So after reading the post here about the guy who installed the tension spring wrong I took off the 14mm bolt and inspected. Nothing...no spring.
I have ordered 50 bucks worth of parts for the carb and threw in a tension spring. Looking for advice on what symptoms no tension spring would give?
Thanks

Put the scooter back together over the long holiday weekend, even replaced oil with Honda HP4 and still did not start...same symptoms. Basically the engine turns over, has spark but will not start. This Carb is completely cleaned and pretty much rebuilt..the only thing I might add it the float and needle assy..but the looked fine.
Going to Harbour Freight today to purchase a compression test kit...decided to make a video and post this whole thing on youtube see if I can generate some more feedback.

Thanks LaCasse for your input :)

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Bought the scooter on craigslist would not start...only has 500 miles...everything about the bike looks barely used...figured it was just a carb issue. Took apart carb...it was filthy...found missing o-ring to enrichment thermal valve..obviously someone who didn't know what they were doing had worked on the scooter.
So after reading the post here about the guy who installed the tension spring wrong I took off the 14mm bolt and inspected. Nothing...no spring.
I have ordered 50 bucks worth of parts for the carb and threw in a tension spring. Looking for advice on what symptoms no tension spring would give?
Thanks

I almost forgot this info...I also found the intake valve clearance was too high and I adjusted down to mfg spec. There does appear to be a good deal of carbon deposits inside this engine which only reads 502 on the odometer. The Air filter is brand new. The crankcase breather filter and tubing all cleaned or replaced. Spark plug gap checked..plug is brand new. spark color is blue.

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Bought the scooter on craigslist would not start...only has 500 miles...everything about the bike looks barely used...figured it was just a carb issue. Took apart carb...it was filthy...found missing o-ring to enrichment thermal valve..obviously someone who didn't know what they were doing had worked on the scooter.
So after reading the post here about the guy who installed the tension spring wrong I took off the 14mm bolt and inspected. Nothing...no spring.
I have ordered 50 bucks worth of parts for the carb and threw in a tension spring. Looking for advice on what symptoms no tension spring would give?
Thanks

Engine has zero compression. None...zippo...zilch! Everything indicates valve issue right?

[R. LaCasse]

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Bought the scooter on craigslist would not start...only has 500 miles...everything about the bike looks barely used...figured it was just a carb issue. Took apart carb...it was filthy...found missing o-ring to enrichment thermal valve..obviously someone who didn't know what they were doing had worked on the scooter.
So after reading the post here about the guy who installed the tension spring wrong I took off the 14mm bolt and inspected. Nothing...no spring.
I have ordered 50 bucks worth of parts for the carb and threw in a tension spring. Looking for advice on what symptoms no tension spring would give?
Thanks

Engine has zero compression. None...zippo...zilch! Everything indicates valve issue right?

It could only mean real bad piston rings,or a real bad spark plug
seating, but that seems unreal.

Does the exhaust smoke a lot??

Bob

[The Older Gentleman]

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Does the exhaust smoke a lot??

Dickhead.

[a***@simple.gopher]

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Engine has zero compression. None...zippo...zilch! Everything indicates valve issue right?

Maybe the timing chain broke? That would prevent the valves from operating => no compression.
Easy enough to check; just open the vavle cover(s) and rotate the crankshaft (often there's a
spot on the fan to do this, if not use the CVT variator nut) and see if the valves/tappets move
up and down. If the cover is large enough the cam chain will also be visible. A bike with
such low mileage having such issues is troubling; did the seller have any info regarding the
bike's history?

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Bought the scooter on craigslist would not start...only has 500 miles...everything about the bike looks barely used...figured it was just a carb issue. Took apart carb...it was filthy...found missing o-ring to enrichment thermal valve..obviously someone who didn't know what they were doing had worked on the scooter.
So after reading the post here about the guy who installed the tension spring wrong I took off the 14mm bolt and inspected. Nothing...no spring.
I have ordered 50 bucks worth of parts for the carb and threw in a tension spring. Looking for advice on what symptoms no tension spring would give?
Thanks

The intake valve was banging into the piston..replaced the whole cylinder head with eBay part :)

[a***@simple.gopher]

The intake valve was banging into the piston..replaced the whole cylinder h=
ead with eBay part :)

Amazing amount of abuse for 500 miles... Glad you got it working!