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Pertutti Review - Chinese Scooters for Canadian
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b***@gmail.com
2006-05-06 18:19:16 UTC
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Good Day All,

I saw awhile back people asking about these, so here is a somewhat
basic review. These scooters arent a big deal to americans, but they
are the first Chinese scooters that us Canadians can buy.

Much of this will be a comparison between the Pertutti Alto and my
Yamaha Vino as they are what I ride the most....currently I have about
90Km on the Alto.

Price - $2999 (Canadian) makes them the cheapest out there at 150cc's.
Closest are the Caton's at $2799 for 115cc's. With this you get the
scooter, a locking storage box and manual.

Looks - It is tall! I am about 5 foot 8 and it sits well for me. My
wife at 5 feet even cannot sit on it and hold it up. The wheels seem
larger so this may be why. It is pretty nice looking from the side,
looking from the front it looks like ET. Foot Mat is annoying as it is
not held down, which can be dangerous. I stuck some velcro on it and no
probs, but should of been thought of when designing.

Storage - It has front storage where your feet are placed, a Bag hook
also, Under seat storage and the trunk. I removed the trunk as it looks
better and gets in the way of the gas tank (Which is placed on the
back, not great planning). Under seat storage seems small, you can fit
a smaller helmet in it. I have a giant head with a full face helmet and
cannot put it in the under-seat storage.

Performance/Handling - It definately has more performance than the Vino
on the lower end I have found. It excellerates pretty well. On the top
end you can feel it straining. It supposed to go over 100Kms an hour,
and It may, but it would take awhile to get there. It hums nicely at
80-85kms no problem. The wheels seem much thinner and taller than the
Yamaha, I notice I can turn pretty nicely with them, this is probably
because it is taller also which lets you lean more. Back braking was
horrible when I received it, did some tightning and now it brakes
pretty nice. Shocks are alot different than the Vino, in the vino when
I go over a bump it bounces gracefully, in the Alto it a much harder
bump. One thing I hate about the Alto is its turn signal, when putting
on the turn signal, it beeps a horrible beep. I imagine this is so you
do not forget to turn it off or so others can hear, but damn, it is
annyoing!

Warranty - No clue, haven't had a problem yet, warranty seems to be
outsourced to the same people who handle warranty work for Tomos.

Final Verdict - I purchased the Alto totally based on price, as I spent
alot on the Vino and could not afford another Vino for me. I actually
was pretty worried getting it as I heard alot of bad things about
chinese scooters. Overall, it is a decent scooter. Definately better
than what I thought I would get and would recommend this scooter to
other cash strapped scooterists.
Dennis Lee Bieber
2006-05-06 20:42:41 UTC
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Post by b***@gmail.com
Final Verdict - I purchased the Alto totally based on price, as I spent
alot on the Vino and could not afford another Vino for me. I actually
was pretty worried getting it as I heard alot of bad things about
chinese scooters. Overall, it is a decent scooter. Definately better
than what I thought I would get and would recommend this scooter to
other cash strapped scooterists.
Come back after you've put 1000+ miles on it (for me, that's about
four months)...
--
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lewtwo
2006-05-06 23:24:49 UTC
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I just took delivery of a chinese 150cc scooter Thursday. After 82
miles on the clock I already have one MAJOR complaint. The seat is the
most unconfortable thing I have ever sat on in my life. My problem is
that I am 6 feet tall. The way the seat is designed on this MOD scooter
I keep sliding down to the very front of the seat so that my knees are
almost hitting the front panels. As a consequence I am constanly
pushing backwith my legs to stay at the back of the "front" seat area.
My legs are so sore that I may not be able to walk normally for a week.
Where did they get the idea that a seat needs to slope downhill? This
is a "form over function" design issue.

To be fair it looks like the Alto may not have as much slope as the I
scooter I have.

The scooter I have is one of the Chinese bikes sold under about two
dozen different names. It was $1200(US) delivered to my door. Yes, I
bought it mail order for 700 very good reasons. It is actually a model
LB150T-12 manufactured by Taizhou Chuanl Motorcycle Manufacturing
Company, LTD. http://www.chuanl.com.cn/en/

The seat problem was not apparent to me at the local dealers. Other
than the I have not found any other major gripes and consider it to be
a fair value for the money spent. I get post more when I have the 1000+
miles (if my legs hold out). Meanwhile I am going to be looking for a
local automotive upholstery shop to flatten the seat profile a bit.

Cheers,

Lewtwo

http://www.keywild.com
c***@webtv.net
2006-05-08 11:50:28 UTC
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I dont know where Pertutti is, (and I guess it's none of my business)
but I like that name.Good Luck to you with your Motor Scooter.
cuhulin
Bike guy Joe
2006-05-08 13:07:38 UTC
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I dont know where Pertutti is...
Pertutti is Italian for "For everybody". It just another Chinese name
"whipped up" to sound like it's not made in China.
Android Cat
2006-05-06 22:51:03 UTC
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Post by b***@gmail.com
Good Day All,
I saw awhile back people asking about these, so here is a somewhat
basic review. These scooters arent a big deal to americans, but they
are the first Chinese scooters that us Canadians can buy.
Much of this will be a comparison between the Pertutti Alto and my
Yamaha Vino as they are what I ride the most....currently I have about
90Km on the Alto.
Price - $2999 (Canadian) makes them the cheapest out there at 150cc's.
Closest are the Caton's at $2799 for 115cc's. With this you get the
scooter, a locking storage box and manual.
Was that bought on eBay.ca and shipped or direct at Pertutti? And you
didn't have any problems registering and plating it?
Post by b***@gmail.com
Final Verdict - I purchased the Alto totally based on price, as I
spent alot on the Vino and could not afford another Vino for me. I
actually was pretty worried getting it as I heard alot of bad things
about chinese scooters. Overall, it is a decent scooter. Definately
better than what I thought I would get and would recommend this
scooter to other cash strapped scooterists.
The turn-signal is probably a standard piezo-beeper. You might be able to
achieve volume control with a strategicly placed piece of duct tape, but
that would mean opening it up...

There's no question that China can make good quality scooter parts (and have
for other companies), but a lot of other stuff is all over the place in
quality and frequently sold (in the US) by people who are gone as soon as
their shipping container is sold out.

Hopefully you did get the pick from the high-end of the quality curve, but
as Dennis posted, come back after 1000 km. You're not too far from Pertutti
as the scooter flies, and that they've made outsourcing deals with other
people for service _sounds_ good.

Meanwhile, have a blast in this excellent weather for scooting!
--
Ron Sharp.
Melinda Meahan - take out TRASH to send
2006-05-07 00:03:53 UTC
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Post by Android Cat
There's no question that China can make good quality scooter parts (and have
for other companies), but a lot of other stuff is all over the place in
quality and frequently sold (in the US) by people who are gone as soon as
their shipping container is sold out.
On the electric vehicle lists, the consensus is that they are good at
meeting specifications when required to do so (and when the
specifications are inspected and insisted upon), but they are equally
good at putting out look-alike clones that aren't worth the paper to
write up the sales draft on when nobody insists upon specifications
being met.
Dennis Lee Bieber
2006-05-07 02:14:39 UTC
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On Sat, 06 May 2006 17:03:53 -0700, Melinda Meahan - take out TRASH to
Post by Melinda Meahan - take out TRASH to send
On the electric vehicle lists, the consensus is that they are good at
meeting specifications when required to do so (and when the
specifications are inspected and insisted upon), but they are equally
good at putting out look-alike clones that aren't worth the paper to
write up the sales draft on when nobody insists upon specifications
being met.
IOWs, when the product is subcontracted from a trusted "name"
company that may pull parts at random for validation checks, the Chinese
stuff may be great... But for stuff basically produced and shipped to
end-user, caveat emptor...
--
Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber KD6MOG
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Melinda Meahan - take out TRASH to send
2006-05-07 14:56:22 UTC
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Post by Dennis Lee Bieber
On Sat, 06 May 2006 17:03:53 -0700, Melinda Meahan - take out TRASH to
Post by Melinda Meahan - take out TRASH to send
On the electric vehicle lists, the consensus is that they are good at
meeting specifications when required to do so (and when the
specifications are inspected and insisted upon), but they are equally
good at putting out look-alike clones that aren't worth the paper to
write up the sales draft on when nobody insists upon specifications
being met.
IOWs, when the product is subcontracted from a trusted "name"
company that may pull parts at random for validation checks, the Chinese
stuff may be great... But for stuff basically produced and shipped to
end-user, caveat emptor...
Exactamundo.
SoCalMike
2006-05-08 00:07:02 UTC
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Post by Melinda Meahan - take out TRASH to send
Post by Dennis Lee Bieber
On Sat, 06 May 2006 17:03:53 -0700, Melinda Meahan - take out TRASH to
Post by Melinda Meahan - take out TRASH to send
On the electric vehicle lists, the consensus is that they are good at
meeting specifications when required to do so (and when the
specifications are inspected and insisted upon), but they are equally
good at putting out look-alike clones that aren't worth the paper to
write up the sales draft on when nobody insists upon specifications
being met.
IOWs, when the product is subcontracted from a trusted "name"
company that may pull parts at random for validation checks, the Chinese
stuff may be great... But for stuff basically produced and shipped to
end-user, caveat emptor...
Exactamundo.
i was looking at sawzalls the other day at lowes. they range from $119
to $199. the only one made in america (according to the label) was the
original milwaukee brand, and that was one of the lower priced ones... $129?

anyhoo... the dewalt was made in china, likely at the same plant that
makes the "chicago electric" brand for harbor freight. except the harbor
freight ones are $30 on sale. thats the kind i have, and the second one
ive owned. if it breaks, i might just go with the milwaukee.

the harbor freight stuff is built to lower standards. the blade guard
isnt as strong, the plastic is hard and brittle, the blade holder is
cheaply made. but it does the trick.
c***@webtv.net
2006-05-08 11:58:24 UTC
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There is a Milwaukee assembly plant in this city of confusion I live
in.I guess it's still there,I can look it up in my phone book.And there
are a few custom Motorcycle builders in this city of confusion too.
cuhulin
b***@gmail.com
2006-05-07 13:28:02 UTC
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No, I bought it from them, not Ebay, I imagine it was not them selling
it on Ebay, they seem to know the rules for selling vehicles.

I imagine the had to use a top tear and are trying to be in it for the
long haul, canada has many more rules where crap just does not cut it
(usually). They told me that it costed them thousands or dollars and
several scooters to get transcport canada approval, which I could see,
I heard before Transport Canada can be tough, thats why there is much
less selection here.

I am definately going to look into the beeping, I want to rip it open
and see if I can find a speaker, but dont want to void the warranty on
the bugger....I may need it!
Post by Android Cat
Post by b***@gmail.com
Good Day All,
I saw awhile back people asking about these, so here is a somewhat
basic review. These scooters arent a big deal to americans, but they
are the first Chinese scooters that us Canadians can buy.
Much of this will be a comparison between the Pertutti Alto and my
Yamaha Vino as they are what I ride the most....currently I have about
90Km on the Alto.
Price - $2999 (Canadian) makes them the cheapest out there at 150cc's.
Closest are the Caton's at $2799 for 115cc's. With this you get the
scooter, a locking storage box and manual.
Was that bought on eBay.ca and shipped or direct at Pertutti? And you
didn't have any problems registering and plating it?
Post by b***@gmail.com
Final Verdict - I purchased the Alto totally based on price, as I
spent alot on the Vino and could not afford another Vino for me. I
actually was pretty worried getting it as I heard alot of bad things
about chinese scooters. Overall, it is a decent scooter. Definately
better than what I thought I would get and would recommend this
scooter to other cash strapped scooterists.
The turn-signal is probably a standard piezo-beeper. You might be able to
achieve volume control with a strategicly placed piece of duct tape, but
that would mean opening it up...
There's no question that China can make good quality scooter parts (and have
for other companies), but a lot of other stuff is all over the place in
quality and frequently sold (in the US) by people who are gone as soon as
their shipping container is sold out.
Hopefully you did get the pick from the high-end of the quality curve, but
as Dennis posted, come back after 1000 km. You're not too far from Pertutti
as the scooter flies, and that they've made outsourcing deals with other
people for service _sounds_ good.
Meanwhile, have a blast in this excellent weather for scooting!
--
Ron Sharp.
GwG
2006-05-07 16:36:19 UTC
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Post by b***@gmail.com
I am definately going to look into the beeping, I want to rip it open
and see if I can find a speaker, but dont want to void the warranty on
the bugger....I may need it!
Leave the beep as it is, annoying as it may be.
I get no beep on my scooter, and on a couple of occasions, cars have
pulled out from side streets in front of me because I have failed to
cancel the turn signal from a previous corner.
m***@gmail.com
2016-03-07 21:42:25 UTC
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Hi I do have a 157cyj pertutti sport ibhave done a few updates and it does run smoothly no major problem ecept from some parts but I did find out that it's close to a gym Honda .but in all its a good bike grateful on fuel about $5.00 a month but I did ad tunes to it I found it oN yutub it's great driving with tunes .
a***@gmail.com
2018-08-03 18:09:10 UTC
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Post by b***@gmail.com
Good Day All,
I saw awhile back people asking about these, so here is a somewhat
basic review. These scooters arent a big deal to americans, but they
are the first Chinese scooters that us Canadians can buy.
Much of this will be a comparison between the Pertutti Alto and my
Yamaha Vino as they are what I ride the most....currently I have about
90Km on the Alto.
Price - $2999 (Canadian) makes them the cheapest out there at 150cc's.
Closest are the Caton's at $2799 for 115cc's. With this you get the
scooter, a locking storage box and manual.
Looks - It is tall! I am about 5 foot 8 and it sits well for me. My
wife at 5 feet even cannot sit on it and hold it up. The wheels seem
larger so this may be why. It is pretty nice looking from the side,
looking from the front it looks like ET. Foot Mat is annoying as it is
not held down, which can be dangerous. I stuck some velcro on it and no
probs, but should of been thought of when designing.
Storage - It has front storage where your feet are placed, a Bag hook
also, Under seat storage and the trunk. I removed the trunk as it looks
better and gets in the way of the gas tank (Which is placed on the
back, not great planning). Under seat storage seems small, you can fit
a smaller helmet in it. I have a giant head with a full face helmet and
cannot put it in the under-seat storage.
Performance/Handling - It definately has more performance than the Vino
on the lower end I have found. It excellerates pretty well. On the top
end you can feel it straining. It supposed to go over 100Kms an hour,
and It may, but it would take awhile to get there. It hums nicely at
80-85kms no problem. The wheels seem much thinner and taller than the
Yamaha, I notice I can turn pretty nicely with them, this is probably
because it is taller also which lets you lean more. Back braking was
horrible when I received it, did some tightning and now it brakes
pretty nice. Shocks are alot different than the Vino, in the vino when
I go over a bump it bounces gracefully, in the Alto it a much harder
bump. One thing I hate about the Alto is its turn signal, when putting
on the turn signal, it beeps a horrible beep. I imagine this is so you
do not forget to turn it off or so others can hear, but damn, it is
annyoing!
Warranty - No clue, haven't had a problem yet, warranty seems to be
outsourced to the same people who handle warranty work for Tomos.
Final Verdict - I purchased the Alto totally based on price, as I spent
alot on the Vino and could not afford another Vino for me. I actually
was pretty worried getting it as I heard alot of bad things about
chinese scooters. Overall, it is a decent scooter. Definately better
than what I thought I would get and would recommend this scooter to
other cash strapped scooterists.
Where can I find a service manual for a Pertutti Alto or a dealer in Ontario
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